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28 February 2005 @ 08:33 am
Here's another Donny Don't for you - judging the result of a dye bath before you finish rinsing out the exhausted dye. I used the appropriate amount of dye for a medium shade of green, and I didn't know that "medium" is significantly lighter than the green shown on the color card. D'oh. There's a lot more light variegation than I originally thought as well. At least I can overdye with a strong solution of some sort of green to darken the color, and I can probably do that in the washing machine and not make a big mess in my bathroom. I'm going to need to order more dye, though. Getting that medium shade used up half of the small container I have...and I'd certainly need a higher concentration of it for the overdye. Eh, I'll figure it out...
Current Mood: disappointeddisappointed
arafel on February 28th, 2005 01:54 pm (UTC)
Yowza. It sounds like a nice big mess, that.
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on February 28th, 2005 02:14 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it would have been pretty crappy if I hadn't done it right next to the tub (which was a perfect place to rinse out the fabric, dump waste water, and set buckets and wet plastic bags out to dry).
crizzyrc on February 28th, 2005 02:42 pm (UTC)
until i got to the washing machine, i thought you were talking about your hair!
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on February 28th, 2005 03:06 pm (UTC)

I actually got my hair dyed a funky color (cobalt blue) about ten years ago. It's thick and long and resistant to dye, so it took two bottles of Manic Panic and an hour of soaking. I also had a hair stylist apply the dye for me. It looked fabulous, but it turned all sorts of various household objects blue (the tub, the phone, an old pillowcase), and it only stayed shockingly bright for a few days. It didn't help that I had to go swimming in gym class. At least it turned interesting colors as it faded.

One of my friends put pink streaks in my hair a while ago, which was pretty nifty as well.
crizzyrc on February 28th, 2005 03:12 pm (UTC)
hee hee, I know that Manic Panic blue well, I used to use MP all the time.
necessary evilmeanjunglist on February 28th, 2005 05:10 pm (UTC)
I feel you. I had a little blunder with my first kanzashi and had to trash it and redo it. Things always come out better the second time around after you've learn how the material works. It can be hella frustrating though.

The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on February 28th, 2005 05:41 pm (UTC)
At least it was an educational mistake. For some reason, I didn't realize that the dye never gets darker than the color on the card. I feel rather silly because I did lots of research on dye and should have known better, but eh, it happens. I also could have sworn that the forest green was darker than it actually is. (On the Dharma Trading website, its color just about matches the darkest color on my fabric.) I'll just low-immersion dye it again with a very dark green dye, and I suspect that the result of that is going to look REALLY cool and I'll be able to consider this project a happy accident. I'll have to make another mess in the bathroom, but that's OK because it really wasn't tough to clean up. Dump everything in the tub, run the shower for a while... =P
necessary evilmeanjunglist on February 28th, 2005 06:29 pm (UTC)
I love happy accidents. :-)
aitai on February 28th, 2005 06:34 pm (UTC)
actually,i've made that same mistake (thinking something would get darker than the card if i soaked it longer)...i bet with the dark dye over it though, it's gonna look really super nifty...you'll have a lot of different grades of the color going through the fabric; i think it'll look neat!
silverluzsilverluz on February 28th, 2005 08:32 pm (UTC)
Adventures in dyeing... been there, done that, have the stains to prove it. Sounds like you ran into two issues with the first run - fairly short setting time (I usually do at least 45 min to an hour), and not enough agitation to spread things around. That's probably always going to be an issue with low-immersion dyeing. For overdyeing, especially if you're trying to darken it up more or less evenly, the washing machine might be the way to go. Especially if yours is one where it will fill and agitate with the lid open, but then stop when its time to spin and rinse - that's an easy way to give it a longer soak (rather than running up and down the stairs trying to catch it and turn the cycle back at the right moment).
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on February 28th, 2005 09:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'll definitely squish it around in the bucket more next time I go for a subtle variegated effect. (I mashed it a few times.) Maybe I can mix the dye first and pour it over the fabric as I cram it into the bucket so the initial application is more even. I'll also let the dye sit for longer before I add the soda ash so it gets more of a chance to spread. After I wrote the entry, I realized I was wrong about the dye's card color. It's actually about the same as the darkest color of my fabric. It also seems that colors appear brighter onscreen than they do when you actually put them on fabric. The dark green dye, which looks nearly black onscreen, should work well for my next round.

The washing machine sounds great for nice solid colors. If only there were a way to get it to work for gradient dyeing something rather large (like the half cape of Randy's costume, which is purple fading into blue)...but I think I'm going to have to just use my really big bucket for that one and have somebody help me stir the fixer in as I slowly pull the fabric out.