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22 March 2004 @ 12:37 am
Evolution is the change in allele frequency across a population over time. That has been observed to happen. Evolution is, therefore, not a fucking lie.

Did I mention that I despise smarmy brainless dipwads who stridently and pompously argue against something without being bothered to even do the simplest basic research into what they are arguing against? If you're a creationist who actually has a goddamn clue about what evolution (and evolutionary theory) is and actually attempts to debate individual claims on their own merits instead of, for instance, saying "Evolution is a lie" without attempting to back up or clarify that statement in any way, shape, or form, then I'm not yelling at you. What pisses me off is when some uppity fundie gets up on their high horse because Pastor Joe Bob told them about how biology is TEH SATAN and they couldn't look beyond the shiny pamphlet and feel-good generalizations contained therein.
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(Anonymous) on March 22nd, 2004 08:29 am (UTC)
Stupid religious fundamentalists making the rest of us look bad... ::grumbles:: Pastor Joe Bob-types never seem to notice that while religious texts do in fact say that G-d created the universe, said texts do not say HOW.

(And don't even get me started on the fact that the Bible was an oral tradition LONG before it was ever written down, so who knows what the orginal story is.) ^_^

Okay, enough of my silly ranting.


Skurtchasorskurtchasor on March 22nd, 2004 08:54 am (UTC)
There's a bumper sticker that I saw at (probably) Hot Topic: "Stop having such strong opinions about things you know nothing about," or something to that effect. You need this on your car.
Jillwanderingrogue on March 22nd, 2004 11:31 am (UTC)
I'm in complete agreement with you. For some insane reason I found myself posting on a YEC fundie Christian board a few years back (I've since regained my sanity) and I was shocked at just the complete up front hostility these people had towards anything that could be considered "book larnin'". Anytime someone would make a reasonable and well thought out and researched argument pointing out the many times that evolution has been proven, they were shot down with the ever impressive "Oh yeah? Well, you're a doody head" argument.

There's a history of high blood pressure in my family. Needless to say, I got the hell out of there for my health.
quufer on March 22nd, 2004 04:50 pm (UTC)

I have met some creationists who make a distinction between micro-evolution and macro-evolution. Micro being the one that produces antibiotic resistance in bacteria, and Darwin's finches. They admit that this happens. Marco-evolution, however, they say can't happen, usually citing things like the human eye and saying that evolution could never produce anything that complex.

Not a convincing explanation to me, but there are some out there who at least realize and admit that there can be a change in allele frequency across a population over time.
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on March 22nd, 2004 08:50 pm (UTC)
I used to post on talk.origins a long time ago, so I know what you're referring to. Creationists do come in all stripes. There are even people who refer to themselves as creationist because they believe that God created everything, but they accept mainstream science's claims about evolutionary theory. Like I mentioned, I can deal with even the young-earthers as long as they actually debate instead of throwing around strawmen, unsupported blanket statements, and "Is Not". I'd just seen some random fundie BS on various boards lately, and I got randomly pissed off about it while I wasn't exactly in a sober state. =P