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08 December 2003 @ 07:01 pm
Elevator accident  
(This entry has been significantly edited since I first posted it. I wanted to put up something more coherent than the quick and dirty addendum I made this morning.)

When I first read this news article, I got a mental picture of a bunch of students being stupidly impatient and ignoring an authority who was trying to help them. I responded with snark (which wasn't exactly comedy gold, so I don't see the point in keeping it around in here). The next morning, I read a followup article that cast the accident in a different light.

According to some of the trapped students, a person had told them how to release the elevator doors. They thought that this was the help that the RA had sent for. Also, they didn't just swing down by themselves. People on the third floor had helped them slide out of the elevator backwards. Katherine Ibanez died due to a freak accident, not a death-defying stunt.

After reading that, I don't feel right leaving the original snarky entry here anymore. I'm not going to censor the comments, and I'm certainly not trying to chastise everybody who reacted the same way I did. I just wanted to be more fair to the people involved.
Current Mood: embarrassedembarrassed
Current Music: nothing
lemeanie on December 9th, 2003 12:42 am (UTC)
hey chicka
I heard that #### on the news. What a shame. I really think students admitted to colleges nowadays have less and less common sense.

The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on December 9th, 2003 12:51 am (UTC)
Yeah, really. I could understand jumping out if the elevator were on fire or about to fall down, or a psycho was sawing through it with a chainsaw, but what's the worst thing that's going to happen if you have to wait there for an hour or so? Did she have to go to the bathroom really badly or something? Even so, I'd much rather sit in a puddle of unsavory substance until rescuers arrived than, oh, I don't know, DIE... o_O
necessary evilmeanjunglist on December 9th, 2003 12:45 am (UTC)
Damn, she should win a Darwin award and the others who lived should get honorary awards.

Needless to say, patience is a virtue that can mean life or death.
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on December 9th, 2003 12:53 am (UTC)
If any of the people who jumped after her had fallen down and croaked as well, they would have deserved a gold medal in the Darwin Olympics.

I just can't comprehend the logic (or lack thereof) behind decisions like that. Recently, I saw a Fark link to a news story about some guy who ran underneath a semi after his hat and got squished. Why do people think that such trivial crap is worth such a huge risk to their life?
necessary evilmeanjunglist on December 9th, 2003 12:56 am (UTC)
Maybe they were cross breed with lemings.....
lemeanie on December 9th, 2003 12:58 am (UTC)
Stupid people.com
I couldn't understand that mess even if you paid me. For real. You can buy another hat, not a life. People are stupid, mi amiga.
radhardened on December 9th, 2003 01:00 am (UTC)
Looks like I'm alone here, but I feel sympathy for the victim. Kids, even otherwise smart ones, think they're invincible. The jump looks easy. The choice seems to be: sit in the stupid elevator for god-knows-how-long, or show some self-reliance and get out? I'm not saying any of them made a wise choice, but it's understandable, to me anyway. It was a mistake. I don't think anyone deserved to die for it; I don't think the human race is somehow better off without Ms. Ibanez.
lemeanie on December 9th, 2003 01:07 am (UTC)
Even if the kids thought they were invicible, the RA specifically told them not to pry the doors open and jump. That's just plain stupidity to me.
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on December 9th, 2003 04:17 am (UTC)
I agree that her death was sad and unfortunate, and I feel sorry for those who are grieving. On a rational level, I don't think that this accident improved the gene pool or anything like that. I was just feeling flabbergasted and snarky. I realize that I probably sounded like an asshat, so thanks for responding politely. ^_^
lemeanie on December 9th, 2003 04:50 am (UTC)
maybe I'm just jaded, but you aren't an asshat
1. Ms. Ibanez' death was unfortunate and unneccesary.

2. Especially when the RA told her and her friends not to jump. When you think about it, it's group think gone horribly wrong.

3. If I was in a stuck elevator, I'd pull out my flask and pass the time. You won't see this chick jumping out of anything except a bad relationship.
Skurtchasorskurtchasor on December 9th, 2003 05:40 pm (UTC)
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

That being said, I don't know that it's fair to say "If I were in this situation, I would have done [such and such most rational choice]." It's easy to make judgements like this from the comfort of the computer chair, but rational thought isn't always going to prevail in the middle of a tense situation. Watch rydain play Silent Hill for a great demonstration of this. =P

My theory is that this was a conspiracy by the Schreyer's College. The fuckers still have the nerve to ask me for money.
Andreaasd109 on December 9th, 2003 02:06 am (UTC)
How horrible. and how stupid. Especially since people knew they were stuck in there and were presumably in the process of helping them get unstuck.
That and we didn't get to use an elevator when I lived there. They only had 1 that went to the 2nd floor, and the service elevators which you needed a key for.
The Heavy Metal Matador: frylockrydain on December 9th, 2003 04:19 am (UTC)
Odd...I don't remember the elevators being off-limits when I lived in Atherton (fall 1998 to spring 2000). I wonder when they decided to open them up...
spicyleesh on December 9th, 2003 05:12 am (UTC)
sure, the one in daisytown! you couldn't use that elevator except on move-in day when we lived there. i guess that's the one they replaced last year?
radhardened on December 9th, 2003 03:33 pm (UTC)
I think I remember reading an article that mentioned the elevator in question was relatively new (since we lived there, IOW).