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04 February 2006 @ 03:43 am
JEEZLY FRICKING CRAP  
This guy's complex curve patterning skills are complete and utter pwnage. He's like the Chuck Norris of making nifty crap. The guy made pointed curved horns out of flat pieces of foam. Seriously. Look for the picture where the pattern pieces are shown.

How in the fudging heck do people manage to do things like that? I just want to make a rather simple complex curve (quite similar to 1/4 of the surface of a 3D ellipse) for the shoulder pauldrons of Zhang He Armor 2.0, and my attempt at drafting it wound up looking like a deformed cone. Feh. I can probably use my w00t m4th sk1llz to draft a petaled pattern that closes to a spherical surface and then try to mess with it from there.

By the way...I am going to jump into the realm of vinyl-laminated foam for that armor redesign. I do like the mottled paint job on my existing armor, but the OMG SHININESS of vinyl is DAMN impressive, and vinyl lamination is the only way to get a seamless complex curved surface on craft foam. (I am NOT trying fiberglass armor again for a damned long time, thankyouverymuch. It involves far too much calendar time, mess, and effort for my current living situation. I would at least want a workshop first.)

Oh. And speaking of cosplay, I'm working on the content of the upcoming rydain.org. I finished a basic article on craft foam armor, and I'm typing a very longwinded explanation of the construction of Xiahou Dun's Kirin Sword thus far. VERY longwinded. Woohoo. So things are moving along.
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カダージュaergryph on February 4th, 2006 04:08 pm (UTC)
holy crap, thats amazing x_x
eve11eve11 on February 4th, 2006 04:13 pm (UTC)
Wow, that armor is really, really cool. Wow. I wish I understood his step-by-steps.

(I am NOT trying fiberglass armor again for a damned long time, thankyouverymuch. It involves far too much calendar time, mess, and effort for my current living situation. I would at least want a workshop first.)

Oh man, fiberglass is fricking nasty. We stank up the whole house just trying to make one little support structure for my Scarran head, down in our basement, with fiberglass. I can't imagine trying to do detailed armor with fiberglass. Ugh.

Question for you if you have any suggestions. First time I tried armor I sculpted it for a liquid latex mold pouring with some gold paint. It was relatively flat but quite detailed. So the pouring worked okay except a) it's very heavy, and b) doesn't hold its shape too well. The original sculptures for the pieces are gone, but I do still have the molds, which are made out of UltraCal 30. Do you know of a material that I might be able to pour or cast into these molds that's relatively light and holds its shape better than latex? I don't know if vinyl laminated foam would pick up on the details in these pieces but if there was something I could spray into the molds and then paint, that might work better than what I've got now...
The Heavy Metal Matador: South Park - Happyrydain on February 5th, 2006 06:37 am (UTC)
You can get non-stinky fiberglass resin. Zeriel and I laminated a wooden sword blade outside with EZ-LAM, and it barely had any discernable smell. The garden-variety stuff is pretty disgusting, though. (And there are industrial-grade resins that you can't even open unless you're wearing a full respirator. Fun fun fun.)

Spiffy work on your costume! I especially like the sculpted figures on the armor and your creative use of floor tile (and your ability to neatly apply trim with hot glue...that particular adhesive and I don't get along too well). As far as your materials questions go...it is possible to carve into craft foam and build it up with more strips of foam (or Gem-Tac glue, puffy fabric paint, or other similar materials), but those details have to be rather bold to work with vinyl lamination. The raised borders and lines on the armor plates could show up, but all the perty detail in the figures would be lost.

You may wish to look into Alumilite's products. They can get pricey, but they're very highly regarded. I have a set of two-part plastic, though I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. There are fillers that you can mix in to decrease the weight of the finished piece.
eve11eve11 on February 5th, 2006 06:05 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the tips! I will defnitely check out the Alumilite people. I'm also thinking I might be able to have less weight on a finished product if I re-cast the pieces using the molds, but with very thin layers of latex. Then maybe I could use those layers as a kind of laminate, instead of vinyl. What would be nice is something maybe like spray-foam or some such that, after pouring the thin latex shell, I could spray into the mold and use to reinforce the piece, without having to de-mold it before it could be set in its shape.

Spiffy work on your costume! I especially like the sculpted figures on the armor and your creative use of floor tile (and your ability to neatly apply trim with hot glue...that particular adhesive and I don't get along too well).

Thanks! Vinyl flooring is a great thing to work with -- cheap, easy to cut, and very versatile because you can cover it with different materials using contact cement. I made a faux leather holster and some greaves for my Aeryn Sun costume using that technique a few years ago. Hot glue -- I'm not so much of a fan. Much of what I did on the gauntlets has to be re-done because it's coming apart.

If you want to see some finished pictures of the Scarran you can check here. Finishing it was a rush job for DragonCon this year and I want to fix it up pretty for this year -- recast the armor, paint some tattoos, bulk up the neck and shoulders and tweak the shape of the head, re-do the arms. Sadly, I kind of have to finish my dissertation first.

Will you have costuming pics up on rydain.org? I'd love to see your stuff, as well as learn about how you do stuff like the aforementioned non-stinky fiberglass :)
The Heavy Metal Matador: South Park - Happyrydain on February 6th, 2006 07:30 am (UTC)
Scarran is PWNAGE! I'm especially impressed with your monster head crafting skills. I've never tried anything like that. And the overall effect of the works is fantastic. The individual pieces of the costume looked pretty good by themselves, but I don't think they're done justice until they're all being worn and photographed together.

I'll definitely post pictures on the new site. When I redo the armor (and make a new set of claws with a matching surface), I'll take a photo for every step so I can write detailed howtos. In the meantime, I can tell you that the techniques and materials for our non-stinky fiberglass project (the sword mentioned in the entry text) were culled from this excellent tutorial, and it really helps to have someone knowledgeable help you squeegee the resin around because there's a learning curve involved. You need to squeegee firmly (otherwise the cloth just slides and wrinkles), but you don't want to wrangle the crap out of it, either. I can also point you to my Zhang He - the costume with the armor that I'm redoing because it doesn't fit as well as it could and it doesn't have any pauldrons. (I'm VERY happy with the sashes and claws, though, and the new armor pattern is coming along well.) Here are a few pictures from Otakon 2005. I have a few other costumes in progress or planning, but I have no clue when any of them will be done. I do post progress pictures sporadically, though, and announce them in my journal for all to see. ^_^
Royroyr on February 6th, 2006 02:15 pm (UTC)
i wish i had time to make costumes like those! i'm doing good if i wear my utilikilt at dragon! LOL!
eve11eve11 on February 6th, 2006 05:40 pm (UTC)
Very cool! I'm not too familiar with anime cosplay and the characters, but the skill and end results are always impressive :)

The mask-making for the Scarran was a 7-month endeavor, and something I'd never tried before either. I've got a series of tagged posts that detail more of the sculpture and mold-making. I'd definitely like to try another one, possibly a Reaver from Serenity. The two sites that helped me the most on the mask-making were Monstermakers.com and the Evil Ash How-to on studiocreations.com. Very helpful. And it was a long process but it was tons of fun. Gave me something to do over the summer at any rate :)